Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast
In the 'Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast,' seasoned Real Estate experts Mike DeHaan and Dan Austin discuss how to use Real Estate to create Massive Income not just Passive Income.
Real estate doesn't have to be a get-rich slow game, and by bringing over 500 successful deals worth of experience in three years, their episodes unpack the art of real estate investing, wholesaling, house flipping, and transforming properties into profitable rentals.
Listen as they share uncensored insights and strategies, from compelling guest interviews revealing personal journeys and finding off-market deals to in-depth deal analyses and the latest market trends.
Whether you're taking your first investment step or scaling up your portfolio, embark on your investment journey with the Collecting Keys podcast - where every episode unlocks a door that brings you one step closer to financial freedom so you can finally live the life of your dreams.
Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast
EP 489 - Where The Smart Money Is Quietly Moving Right Now w/ Drew Wiard
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Most fund operators get paid whether your money performs or not — acquisition fees, management fees, prefs that don't actually pay until years in. Drew Wiard built his fund the opposite way: zero fees, and he personally guarantees every loan, so he doesn't get paid until you do. In this episode, Drew is back for round four on why that skin-in-the-game structure is the alignment most operators won't touch, why industrial is the unsexy corner of the market nobody posts about on Instagram, and bonus depreciation that puts 20–30% of your capital back in year one.
Topics discussed:
Introduction (00:00)
Why finance-space culture is so different from real estate (03:13)
Multi-family vs. single-family — where's the downside really at? (08:15)
Why lenders are bypassing appraisals entirely (10:48)
The DSCR fraud ring lenders are still cleaning up (13:25)
Inside Drew's commercial industrial fund (16:49)
The personal-guarantee structure most operators won't touch (21:55)
Why industrial real estate isn't on Instagram (and why that's the opportunity) (25:25)
Triple net leases and how Drew adds value without flipping (30:32)
The 20–30% bonus depreciation play for high-W-2 earners (32:55)
Investment thesis discipline: make money, don't lose money (37:22)
Concentration risk and the case for taking chips off the table (46:25)
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